Tuesday, March 24, 2009

Obama: Through the Eyes of Those who Despise Him

Here's some of the most wingnut perspectives on our president, with my perspective in italics:

1. He can't speak in full sentences without a teleprompter --RedState

Have they forgotten gems such as "Is our children learning" and "People putting food on their families"?

I can speak with a bit of authority on this topic since I am getting my doctorate in, ooh, about six weeks. One of my specialty areas is in Classical-Modern Rhetoric; Obama displays all of the signs of classic Greek oratory and civic mindedness in his speeches and conversations. These people cannot find any other way to critique his oratory so the extent of their criticism rivals that of ten-year olds with short-term memory loss.

2. He arrogantly laughed about the poor state of our economy on 60 Minutes

He explained it in his response to the follow up question by Kroft (see the full video here) but of course, the wingnut media isn't mentioning that at all. We have a president who doesn't laugh when talking about dead soldiers or dead Iraqis.

3. He's still not a citizen

Get. over. it. You. are. nutters.

4. He's trying to do too much at once

A president's job is to do things. Unlike Bush 43, who took more vacation days than any other president in history.

5. He's out of touch with the American people

So... that's why he's spent more time than any president in recent history talking to them either in town hall meetings (Indiana, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, California, etc.) or in interviews? He's been in office for 64 days and has gotten major legislation passed, has revealed his plans to fix the economy, and has managed to spend time with his family, too.

6. He and his wife are trash

This is all I'm going to say about this self-proclaimed independent conservative (this week, that's what she says she is)

7. He's leading us down the path to socialism

Shows an utter and complete lack of understanding of the term. See this post

Really, the lack of critical thinking skills or hypocrisy from some people never ceases to amaze me.

Happy Tuesday all.


Electricfunk March 24, 2009 at 12:15 PM  

Obama displays all of the signs of classic Greek oratory and civic mindedness in his speeches and conversations.

When he has his electronic buddy sure, without it he turns into the wizard of uhs.

Of course you forgot to mention him insulting handicapped people on national television, twice.

His insulting Britain not once but twice. First by returning the bust of Churchill that was given to us just after 9/11. Secondly by giving a bunch of DVD's as a gift of state. He didnt even make sure they were the right region code and they so they won't play on British DVD players!

catherinemacivor.com March 24, 2009 at 12:20 PM  

That woman has the audacity to call Michelle Obama trash because she was relating a real story about her background? I see each of these examples every day. Having no substantive issues to address, they make personal attacks and rant about his birth certificate.

The discourse from the right in this country sickens me. We can't talk about issues because the focus is far more on attack and who is a winner and who is the loser. That includes the media too by the way, which has really let us down.

What happened to banding behind a President in times of war and great difficulty. I am very concerned about the level of rhetoric that i am hearing out there and the volume of hate directed toward President Obama. It is so irrational I can lonly think that it must be race based.

skyewriter March 24, 2009 at 1:01 PM  

Any sources aside from RW *blogs* to cite in support of those insults?

In terms of a state visit, Obama was under no obligation to give a gift to Brown.

That happens when Obama visits his country.

As far as the bust goes, it was replaced with a bust of Lincoln. Churchill's mother was American, so it was considered returning an artifact to GB.

These are such petty criticisms; just proves my point in this post.

Bush in a transcript from a February 2005 appearance while pitching his plan to privatize SS:

Begin transcript:

MS. MORNIN: That’s good, because I work three jobs and I feel like I contribute.

THE PRESIDENT: You work three jobs?

MS. MORNIN: Three jobs, yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Uniquely American, isn’t it? I mean, that is fantastic that you’re doing that. (Applause.) Get any sleep? (Laughter.)

Mr. Bush was out of touch with working people, he did not seem to care that this woman (and many others in similar situations) may have been suffering in her present circumstances. Nor did he offer her any comfort.

We have a president who gives a shit for a change and all people can do is focus on trivial, cherry-picked soundbites.

skyewriter March 24, 2009 at 1:05 PM  

I think the uhs are very annoying too, but it shows that he is carefully choosing his words while using extemporaneous speech.

If he were to do that with *prepared* remarks, then definitely he should be considered a bit of a fluff. Not happened, tho'.

Electricfunk March 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM  

Google is your friend here's my proof

Special Olympics crack:

Churchill bust:

DVD Debacle:

In terms of a state visit, Obama was under no obligation to give a gift to Brown.
Right, but he did anyways so he should have made sure it was a good one.

skyewriter March 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM  

Did you read my comment back to you?

I wrote about the *exact* same things you just cited on websites.

Trivial. Effluvia. Petty.

That's my point...

Electricfunk March 24, 2009 at 5:20 PM  

You asked for sources so I provided them, and it's great that you think insulting the handicapped and our closes ally is cool.

skyewriter March 24, 2009 at 5:31 PM  

**Please, don't come to my blog and post things about my concern over certain things that are patently false**.

I am *disagreeing* with your take.

I. do. not. care. that he gave dvds.

I. do. not. care. that he returned the bust.

I. think. over. analyzing. every. single. word. is. useless.

We are in a *huge* mess and people are seriously focusing on the dumbest shit.

pottersfield March 24, 2009 at 6:02 PM  

I think this electric funk person proves your point from Sunday.

You don't cave to his whims so he attacks your character.


James March 24, 2009 at 6:07 PM  

I keep wanting to comment on the bizarre shirtless avatar, but don't want to be insulting...


skyewriter March 24, 2009 at 6:10 PM  

While I appreciate the support, James, let's keep it civil... and not get personal.

Good point, pottersfield.

Seeing Eye Chick March 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM  

You go in with the President you got,

Not the one you want.

He's the president now. You don't have to be happy with everything he does. I wasn't real crazy about the Olympics crack either. That being said, the last president said much worse and with poor grammar. Obama is doing a good job thus far.

I dont care if he uses a teleprompter or not. At least he isn't using Dick Cheney.

catherinemacivor.com March 24, 2009 at 7:40 PM  

There is no criticism of Obama then because none of that matters given the gravity of the problems we face. I wonder why any of those things are significant enough to report, much less bring up for discussion.

Does it really matter that Obama uses a teleprompter? If he turns out to be the greatest President we ever had, would anyone care?

He laughed. Bush said he had a good time during his tenure during which time we had the worst terrorist attack in world history and 2 wars. He had a good time. I don't mind that Obama laughed and I don't interpret the laughters as making fun of the situation.

The burth certificate issue is the biggest waste of time and just dog whistling racism.

Now the one about being out of touch is interesting. You want to hear about out of touch, how about when 41 turned to a woman in the crowd in NH who was complaining about unemployment. When she thrust her unemployment paperwork under 41's nose, he smiled and autographed them. Now that's really out of touch.

Trash. I heard the comments. There was nothing to them and you have to consider the source. i always wonder about people who call other people "trash."

As for the socialism thing, how about those tax cuts for the wealthy. Wasn't that the greatest redistribution of wealth ever. That is when we moved from an advanced society with a middle class to more like a third world country where there are just haves and have nots.

The man is doing his best.

Electricfunk March 24, 2009 at 8:51 PM  

I'm not sure what I posted that was false, especially since I posted news reports to back everything up.

You don't cave to his whims so he attacks your character.
You have an example to back that up?

"You asked for sources so I provided them, and it's great that you think insulting the handicapped and our closes ally is cool." A bit snarky perhaps but I've been called worse things by children and it didn't hurt my feelings.

skyewriter March 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM  

No where did I write one letter about Obama's comments re: Special Olympics.

I took exception to you claiming that I think it's "cool" to insult the handicapped.

It was off topic and frankly, was an attempt at a personal attack.

Don't comment on my blog and expect me to have the conversation you want to.

You simply cannot assume to know someone's position on something and then take pot shots.

politicalmorsels.com March 24, 2009 at 11:08 PM  

I didn't watch the video because I cannot stand Laura Ingram. However, I did see Tammy Bruce's headshot.

Tammy Bruce's main focus is on Political Narcissism. How do I know this? I've read all of her books and in some ways agree with her. In other ways I don't. Frankly, I haven't listened to her show or visited her blog in months because I fundamentally disagree with her about Obama.

Electricfunk March 24, 2009 at 11:59 PM  

You ask me to cite my sources so I do one of those sources was about Obama's Special Olympics insult.
Your response
I wrote about the *exact* same things you just cited on websites.

Trivial. Effluvia. Petty.

Now can you see how I could easily say that your not caring about him insulting handicapped people is not cool?

I can understand you dismissing his other gaffe's but almost everyone got angry about his Special Olympics jab.

skyewriter March 25, 2009 at 8:17 AM  

As I said, EF, I'm not going to have the conversation *you* want to have on my blog.

*YOU* brought up the special Olympics thing--- not me.

Here, I'll even write it here:

EF WINS!!! He's right! He's proven that skye did, IN FACT, *NOT* address Obama's special Olympics comment!!!

CONGRATULATIONS! You've proven a point completely irrelevant the the blog post: SKYE DID INDEED *NOT* ADDRESS THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS GAFFE BY OBAMA.

Apparently, you have completely, totally, and without a doubt *missed the point*.

I will not discuss this with you any further.

itdawnedonme March 26, 2009 at 4:23 PM  

I have to laugh when I see some of the comments made by rightwingers after their support of one of the most dangerous administrations (Bush of course) we have ever had that authorized torture, destroyed our economy and our standing in the world, and invaded a country on a lie to the American people (and that war has cost Iraqis over a million lives in addition to all the American lives lost, the life-changing injuries, and the trillion dollars wasted on this stupid war). I could go on and on.

The hypocrisy of people who support such stupidity and evil and yet have the audacity to even open their mouths to criticize President Obama...an erudite, principled, getting-positive-things-done president...is just beyond belief. There is no trying to argue with such people. They are not interested in honesty or principles or caring for the American people. They are only interested in being RIGHT (and it's no accident that they are thus RIGHT wingers).

ZIRGAR April 18, 2009 at 7:32 AM  

You are exactly right. Mr. Obama's extemporaneous speaking style is more a case of him parsing his words, gather his thoughts in a measured, substantive way, not because he doesn't know what to say and gets stuck. I mean, we all know that if you're a public figure if you say the wrong thing, or the right thing in the wrong way, people will excoriate you for it, so being measured is being wise. Unless you're Mr. Obama, then you don't get any breaks at all, apparently. As far as the rest of the idiotic crap the rightwinger's spew out in the name of genuine "discourse"--give 'em hell!

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